Comments on: Model Caning Case – Latest Developments http://www.abigmessage.com/model-caning-case-latest-developments.html A Big Message ɹoɟ uɐ ǝpısdn uʍop plɹoʍ Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:39:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Asia_Muslim http://www.abigmessage.com/model-caning-case-latest-developments.html/comment-page-1#comment-103 Asia_Muslim Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:39:51 +0000 http://www.abigmessage.com/?p=1263#comment-103 'Caning for repent', 'Caning to deter', 'Caning to educate', 'Caning to teach'. Repent - 'Oh Syariah court please punish me for I have sins, Pls cane me for I repent.' How certain are we that an offender has fully repent? To an alcoholic if the caning is just a symbol, I believe that it defeats the purpose. Just look at drug addicts, to be caned but yet the offence is done over and over again. Moreover, in Islam that is such a thing as 'Sembahyang Taubat' or Repent prayer whereby an offender feel disgrace in the eyes of Allah and he/she will perform it and not do it again. If Kartika had performed such prayers, can any mortal questioned her repentance? Or if only the caning is done will society believe that she had repented. Deter - Why should caning for deter be done to symbolise it? To deter starts from society. 'Sale of tobacco under 18 is prohibited'. Is there a sign mentioning that 'Sale of alcohol to Muslim is prohibited'? Deterance is an act of community and is not a punishment. Educate - The consuming of alcohol is prohibited when someone commits slander during the time of the prophet. The offender had cause a public nuisance and as such it has to be banned. The man was punish to educate the offender and the whole community. Yet again how is caning of Kartika symbolises caning to educate? She has been a Muslim for the past 32 years and has been educated by the Islamic society around her. Is Kartika knowledge on Islam really shallow? Is the society around her to be blamed? During the prophet time, Islam is at his peak and an offender is punish for drinking alcohol to educate is valid as perhaps he is new to Islam. Teach - To teach a Muslim by caning is harsh be it a symbolic caning. How much can we teach? A child can be cane by the parents so as to teach him/her the right and wrong. What about an adult? Should an adult Muslim be caned if he ignores the Friday prayers? SHould this whipping be done in public? So as to get the message to Islamic community? By not whipping we are all aware that Kartika's sins has tarnish her family's name all over Asia and now the world. She has given the message to all. Should society disgraced her further? Is that an Islamic faith? Is that what we want to reflect about Islam? ‘Caning for repent’, ‘Caning to deter’, ‘Caning to educate’, ‘Caning to teach’.
Repent – ‘Oh Syariah court please punish me for I have sins, Pls cane me for I repent.’ How certain are we that an offender has fully repent? To an alcoholic if the caning is just a symbol, I believe that it defeats the purpose. Just look at drug addicts, to be caned but yet the offence is done over and over again. Moreover, in Islam that is such a thing as ‘Sembahyang Taubat’ or Repent prayer whereby an offender feel disgrace in the eyes of Allah and he/she will perform it and not do it again. If Kartika had performed such prayers, can any mortal questioned her repentance? Or if only the caning is done will society believe that she had repented.

Deter – Why should caning for deter be done to symbolise it? To deter starts from society. ‘Sale of tobacco under 18 is prohibited’. Is there a sign mentioning that ‘Sale of alcohol to Muslim is prohibited’? Deterance is an act of community and is not a punishment.

Educate – The consuming of alcohol is prohibited when someone commits slander during the time of the prophet. The offender had cause a public nuisance and as such it has to be banned. The man was punish to educate the offender and the whole community. Yet again how is caning of Kartika symbolises caning to educate? She has been a Muslim for the past 32 years and has been educated by the Islamic society around her. Is Kartika knowledge on Islam really shallow? Is the society around her to be blamed? During the prophet time, Islam is at his peak and an offender is punish for drinking alcohol to educate is valid as perhaps he is new to Islam.

Teach – To teach a Muslim by caning is harsh be it a symbolic caning. How much can we teach? A child can be cane by the parents so as to teach him/her the right and wrong. What about an adult? Should an adult Muslim be caned if he ignores the Friday prayers?

SHould this whipping be done in public? So as to get the message to Islamic community? By not whipping we are all aware that Kartika’s sins has tarnish her family’s name all over Asia and now the world. She has given the message to all. Should society disgraced her further? Is that an Islamic faith? Is that what we want to reflect about Islam?

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