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	<title>Comments on: Kartika Wants Caning Sentence To Be Carried Out</title>
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		<title>By: Daisy</title>
		<link>http://www.abigmessage.com/kartika-wants-caning-sentence-to-be-carried-out.html/comment-page-1#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>Daisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela is right in that caning a woman under Syariah laws is different from caning under Federal laws. Malaysian Home Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein said: &quot;There was little force involved and it was not going to inflict pain, not even like the caning carried out in schools in those days”. This is the point made in one of the earlier postings that I have read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela is right in that caning a woman under Syariah laws is different from caning under Federal laws. Malaysian Home Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein said: &#8220;There was little force involved and it was not going to inflict pain, not even like the caning carried out in schools in those days”. This is the point made in one of the earlier postings that I have read.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s put this in perspective: 

1. The caning as it applies in this case comes under Malaysian Syariah Court laws -- the Islamic courts that watch over Muslim citizens, so to speak. This is not the same as corporal punishment caning, which is administered by Federal courts. The difference between the two punishments is simple: one is meant to cause pain, while the other is meant to humiliate. The description of the cane here is the cane used in corporal punishment. The cane used in Syariah caning is little more than a stick, and the actual caning itself is little more than a flick of the wrist rather than a full-out whip. As I said, the intention here is to humiliate the offender, rather than cause him or her pain. 

2. Under the aforesaid Syariah laws, Muslims may not consume alcohol. Regular laws could not care less, however. Malaysia is a clubbing paradise. 

Kartika is simply unlucky enough to be a minor celebrity that the powers that be have decided to use as a case study to deter other potential offenders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s put this in perspective: </p>
<p>1. The caning as it applies in this case comes under Malaysian Syariah Court laws &#8212; the Islamic courts that watch over Muslim citizens, so to speak. This is not the same as corporal punishment caning, which is administered by Federal courts. The difference between the two punishments is simple: one is meant to cause pain, while the other is meant to humiliate. The description of the cane here is the cane used in corporal punishment. The cane used in Syariah caning is little more than a stick, and the actual caning itself is little more than a flick of the wrist rather than a full-out whip. As I said, the intention here is to humiliate the offender, rather than cause him or her pain. </p>
<p>2. Under the aforesaid Syariah laws, Muslims may not consume alcohol. Regular laws could not care less, however. Malaysia is a clubbing paradise. </p>
<p>Kartika is simply unlucky enough to be a minor celebrity that the powers that be have decided to use as a case study to deter other potential offenders.</p>
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